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Director/Producer - Daniel Karslake
Editor/Co-Writer - Nancy Kennedy
Producer - Sheri Heitker
Producer - Barbara Simon
Composers - Elegant Too
Composers - Phil Hernandez & Chris Maxwell
Music Supervisor - Susan Jacobs
Post Supervisor - Helen Mendoza
D.P. - Amy Bronson
Assoc. DP - Doug Candler
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the cast

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Rob and Ryan Robertson
Hi res archival photo of evangelical Christian dad Rob Robertson and son Ryan.
The McBride Family
Hi-res Production photo of Sally & David McBride, the parents of trans activist, Sarah McBride.
Baez-Febo Family
Hi-res Annette Febo and husband, Victor Baez, Sr.
Porcher Family
Hi-res Coleen and Harold Porcher with their son, Eliot.
Rev. Cynthia Alice Anderson
Reverand Dr. Delman Coates
Reverand Dr. Delman Coates
Reverand Dr. Jacqui Lewsi
Reverand Dr. Jacqui Lewis
Bishop Gene Robinson (ret.)
Gene Robinson, first openly gay bishop to be confirmed in the Episcopalian Church.
Rev. Mel White
Reverand Mel White
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Daniel Karslake



Nancy Kennedy



Nancy Kennedy and Daniel Karslake



Sheri Heitker

Barb Simon


Executive Producers

Bruce Bastian


Jane & Tami Marquardt

Peace & Possibility Project


Teresa & Todd Silver


Richard N. Purington


The Dickinson Family Foundation


Associate Producers

Joseph Broom

Danielle Chu

Kiera Lewis


Music Supervisor

Susan Jacobs



Chris Maxwell & Phil Hernandez


Elegant Too


Post - Production Supervisor

Helen Mendoza


Director of Photography

Amy Bronson


Associate Director of Photography

Doug Candler


Additional Camera

Lorie Shaull

David Fox

Sarah McBride

Alexandr Fuchs

Holly Tuckett

Fletcher Johnson

Daniel Karslake


Production Sound

Diana Wilmar

Holly Tucket


Motion Graphics

Max Strebel


Editorial Assistants

Anna Hovhannessian

Anna Sweeney

Zane Friedkin

Roger Carucci

Claire Stohlman


Color Grading/Online Facility

Hell’s Color Kitchen


Colorist/Online Editor

Job Fordham


Dialogue Editor/Re-recording Mixer

James Redding III


Sound Effects Editor

Tony Pipitone


Director of Finishing

Keith Shapiro


Manager of Operations

Sheila Lynch


Legal Services

Donaldson + Califf, LLP


Sales Agent

UTA Independent Film Group



Moore Stephens Lovelace, P.A.


Transcription Services


Spanish Transcription

Ellen Estrada


Additional Graphics / Website Design

Helen Mendoza – Tigre’s Den Creative


End Titles



Rob & Linda Robertson

Lindsey Robertson

Don Mueller

David & Sally McBride

Sarah McBride

Vico Baez Febo

Victor Baez

Annette Febo

Vicnette Baez Febo

Iris Delia Collazo

Harold & Coleen Porcher

Elliot Porcher

Randy Thomas

Robin Maynard-Harris



Bishop V. Gene Robinson

Reverend Dr. Mel White

Reverend Dr. Jacqui Lewis

Reverend Dr. Delman Coats

Boris Dittrich

Paul M. Smith

Reverend Cynthia Alice Anderson






The Robertson Family


Linda & Rob Robertson are evangelical Christians who live in a suburb of Seattle, Wash., where they enjoy long bike rides, lots of Starbucks coffee and a thriving, involved community that cares about making a real difference in the world. Linda’s passion and prayer is that Ryan’s life and death will matter – and that the mistakes they made, as conservative evangelical parents with a young gay son, will serve to help someone else learn to really love their children, just because they breathe.


The McBride Family


Dave and Sally McBride and their three sons were the all-American family living in Wilmington, Delaware. When their oldest son told them he was gay, they adjusted. Then their youngest child came out as a transgender woman, saying simply that she's always known herself to be Sarah. Sarah McBride then made national headlines when she came out publicly as transgender while serving as student body president at American University. She soon became the first transgender intern at the White House and continues to shatter stereotypes and to break new ground.



The Báez Febo Family


Victor Báez, Sr. & Annette Febo were middle school sweethearts in Barranquita, Puerto Rico before they married in 1987. The family moved to Florida for Victor, Sr.’s construction job but after he graduated from high school, Victor Jr., moved back to Puerto Rico to live with his Catholic grandmother. When his grandma soon discovered that Victor Jr. was gay, she banned him from her house and outed him to his mom & dad…his greatest nightmare.



The Porcher Family


Coleen and Harold Porcher were so excited when their daughter was born. There had been challenges starting their family, but now they were on their way, and they couldn’t have been more thrilled. Growing up, their girl was a real tomboy who loved snakes and insects, but they didn’t think much of it. But in eighth grade when she came to Coleen and Harold, and asked, “could you love me even if I were a boy?”…their lives changed forever.


Reverend Dr. Mel White

The Rev. Dr. Mel White is a Christian minister, author, and filmmaker and LGBTQ advocate. For 30 years, he was a pastor, speech-writer, and ghost-writer for the Religious Right, penning biographies for Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Billy Graham. He fought to overcome his own homosexual orientation for decades in all ways available to him: prayer, psychotherapy, exorcism, electric shock, marriage and family. That struggle and his journey to embrace his homosexuality and reconcile it with his faith, are documented in his book Stranger at the Gate: To Be Gay and Christian in America, published in 1994. In 1993, he came out publicly when he was installed as dean at the Dallas Cathedral of Hope of the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches (UFMCC). He announced during his first sermon, "I am gay. I am proud. And God loves me without reservation." In 1998, Mel White founded the non-profit organization, Soulforce Inc. with his partner, Gary Nixon. 

Bishop Gene Robinson (retired)


Bishop Gene Robinson is an American retired bishop of the Diocese of New Hampshire in the Episcopal Church in the United States of America. Robinson is widely known for being the first priest in an openly gay relationship to be consecrated a bishop in a major Christian denomination believing in the historic episcopate. The story of Gene and his family was featured in For the Bible Tells Me So and he’s back in the new film talking not only about God’s love for all people but also about his latest work of uncovering affirming messages for transgender people in the Bible.



Reverend Jacqui Lewis


The Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis is Senior Minister at Middle Collegiate Church, a 1000-member multiracial, welcoming, and inclusive congregation in New York City. She is an activist, preacher, and a fierce advocate for racial equality, economic justice, and LGBTQ equality.



Reverend Dr. Delman Coates


The Reverend Dr. Delman Coates is an American Christian minister and the Senior Pastor of Mt. Ennon Baptist Church, a megachurch located in Clinton, Maryland. He is a board member of the Parents Television Council, and National Action Network. He is a member of the Society of Biblical Literature, Morehouse College Board of Preachers, NAACP, and a board member of the Parents Television Council, The African American Pulpit, and National Action Network. Dr. Coates is a religious progressive who argues quite persuasively against the cries of “religious freedom” coming from conservatives who want to use their religious beliefs as an excuse to discriminate.



Reverend Cynthia Alice Anderson


Rev. Cynthia Alice Anderson has been serving as senior minister at Christ Church Unity in Orlando, Florida since 2007. Under her spiritual leadership, Christ Church Unity continues to be a thriving ministry of community outreach, diversity and soul growth. Christ Church Unity is a welcoming community, dedicated to transforming lives, celebrating diversity and supporting soul growth.



Daniel Karslake


Daniel Karslake is an award-winning American director and producer whose highly acclaimed work deals with pressing issues of national and international social justice.

Prior to FTKNWTD, Karslake completed EVERY THREE SECONDS, a film amplifying practical solutions to global poverty and hunger which he began as a visiting scholar at Stanford University.  Prior to that, he directed and produced FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO, a feature documentary about the intersection of religion and homosexuality in America, which premiered in competition at the 2007 Sundance Film Festival and was shortlisted for a 2008 Academy Award. 

Karslake lives in Berlin with his husband, Russ, and their two cats, Rocky and Fred.



Nancy Kennedy


Nancy Kennedy is a New York-based, award-winning editor. Her many credits include Sundance Grand Jury winner Why We Fight, For the Bible Tells Me So, Gregory Crewdson: Brief Encounters, She’s Beautiful When She’s Angry, When the Drum Is Beating, Orchestra of Exiles, and Who Does She Think She Is?  Recent projects include “The Jinx,” a 6 -part doc series for HBO, Harry & Snowman, and Beyond Borders.  Nancy has also worked for all the major networks on such series as American Experience, American Masters, National Geographic, Saturday Night Live, and others.



Sheri Heitker


Previous to her producer duties on this documentary, Sheri Heitker was the co-executive producer of EVERY THREE SECONDS, a feature doc about ending poverty. She is also the Founder and Executive Director of Keep Her Safe, a non-profit mobilizing parents to stop campus sexual assault. She lives in Orlando with her husband, Mark, and their daughter, Cecelia.



Barbara Simon


Barbara Simon is a two-time Emmy Award-winning producer, one-time GLAAD award nominee, and full-time passionate advocate for (and occasional practitioner of) great storytelling. She is a producer for CBS News’ Emmy-nominated morning news program, CBS THIS MORNING, where she produces interviews with presidential candidates, governors, CEOs, brain surgeons, country music stars, terror analysts and vigilante moms of Baltimore. In 2014 she won a Wilbur Award from the Religious Communicators Council for CTM’s interview with Cardinal Timothy Dolan and Archbishop Edward Kurtz on “The Francis Effect,” noting the changes in the American Catholic Church in Pope Francis’ first year in the papacy. She lives in Montclair, NJ with her wife Margaret and their two kids, Nick & Cate.



Director of Photography

Amy Bronson


Amy Bronson is a filmmaker currently living in Salt Lake City, Utah. She is the Executive Director of Reel Advocacy, a non-profit video production company that focuses on humanitarian causes. Amy also teaches two courses at the University of Utah: Documentary and Social Justice, and Himalayan Film for Learning Abroad – a three-week documentary course/humanitarian trek in Nepal.



Music Supervisor

Susan Jacobs

Susan Jacobs has been masterfully curating music for film since Spike Lee's 1986 movie, She's Gotta Have It.  Since then, she has supervised music for some of the most notable projects in film and television. Her credits include:  Capote (2005), Little Miss Sunshine (2006), Lady in the Water (2006), Silver Linings Playbook (2012), American Hustle (2013),  I, Tonya (2017), and The Farewell (2019). 

Her television credits include the HBO mini-series Sharp Objects, Mozart in the Jungle and Big, Little Lies for which she received an Emmy Award.



Elegant Too

Elegant Too is an American record production and composer team based in New York City, consisting of the duo Chris Maxwell and Phil Hernandez. They are best known for their composer work on the FOX hit series Bob’s Burgers,'  - which won an Emmy in 2017 for an episode scored by Elegant Too. They are also known for their work on Disney's hit series Walk the Prank,' Showtime's Dice', Netflix’ Who Was,' and many other well-known series including Inside Amy SchumerJohn Oliver’s NY Stand-Up Show, Important Things With Dimitri Martin, The Onion News Network, and multiple projects with Trevor Moore, including work on his recent Comedy Central special The Story of Our Times as well as his The Whitest Kids You Know and the production of his comedy album for Comedy Central, High in Church.



Post-Production Supervisor/Website Designer

Helen Mendoza

Helen Mendoza is a frequent collaborator with Dan Karslake, serving as Producer for the documentary, Every Three Seconds (2013), and Co-Producer for For the Bible Tells Me So (2007) which premiered in competition at the 2007 Sundance Film Festival.  In addition to her work in documentary films, Helen has produced commercials for television and radio, corporate and educational films. Helen created, wrote, and produced the original web series Gay Daze and LGBT search engine Helen is also a vocalist and musician. She is a founding member of acclaimed women's choir, Vox Femina Los Angeles for whom she has produced video and multi-media elements for live concerts, as well as producing their first CD, Taking Shape.  She lives in Los Angeles with her wife and two children.


Associate Director of Photography

Doug Candler


Doug is a graduate of Georgia Southern College and is a multi-Emmy Award-winning news photographer and video journalist from Atlanta.  After spending years shooting for Georgia television outlets, he moved to South Florida where he’s a freelance videographer for organizations and businesses.  Doug is also a philanthropist who has both supported and served on boards for many animal rights and LGBTQ rights organizations.



FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO examines the intersection of religion, sexual orientation and gender identity in America.  In the wake of the Supreme Court case legalizing marriage equality, the Right has launched a new campaign to limit the rights of LGBTQ citizens across the country.  In collaboration with religious conservatives, politicians are invoking both the Bible and the U.S. Constitution in their arguments for the 'religious freedom' to openly discriminate.  By telling the stories of four families struggling with these issues, FTKNWTD offers healing, clarity and understanding to those caught in the crosshairs of scripture, sexuality, and identity.  



From the director/producer of FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO comes a new film, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO, a powerful exploration of the intersection of religion, sexual orientation and gender identity in America. The film features four families of faith including Rob & Linda Robertson, who were encouraged by their evangelical church family to put their son, Ryan, in conversion therapy; David & Sally McBride, life-long Presbyterians who were shocked when their youngest boy came out to them as a transgender woman; Victor Baez & Annette Febo, whose Catholic tradition and Puerto Rican upbringing greatly concerned their gay son; and Harold & Coleen Porcher, a mixed-race couple whose child endured self-harm before their parents’ acceptance enabled them to come to terms with their gender. Alongside these family stories of faith, rejection, validation, tragedy and triumph, the film weaves together unique perspectives from religious leaders. Through love, reconciliation, and acceptance, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO takes us on a journey of understanding what connects us all and gives us the courage to embrace each other.


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